2000-05-09MOUND HRA MEETING - MAY 9~ 2000
HRA MINUTES - REGULAR MEETING - MAY 9, 2000
The Housing and Redevelopment Authority of the City of Mound, I-Iennepin County,
Minnesota, met in a regular session on Tuesday, May 9, 2000, at 7:00 p.m., in the Council
Chambers at 5341 Maywood Road, in said City.
Those present: Chairperson Pat Meisel; HRA Board Members: Andrea Ahrens, Bob
Brown, Mark Hanus and Leah Weycker. Also in attendance were City Manager Kandis
Hanson, City Clerk Fran Clark, City Attorney John Dean, Mound Visions Coordinator Bruce
Chamberlain, James D. Prosser of Ehlers & Associates, Inc., Bill Beard from Mainstreet,
Inc., City Engineer John Cameron and Secretary Sue McCulloch and Diana Mestad. Others
present: Jorj Ayaz, Kristen & John Beise, Jane Carlsen, Martin Cowder, Ken Custer, Lori
Ham, Duane Leisinger, Dorothy Netka, Bill Netka, Peter Meyer, Linda Skorseth, Ani
Tasciyan.
Consent Agenda: All items listed under this Consent Agenda are considered to be routine by
the Housing and Redevelopment Authority. There will be no separate discussion of these
items unless a Councilmember or citizen so request, in which event the item will be removed
from the Consent Agenda and considered in normal sequence.
Chairperson Meisel called the meeting to order at 7:08 p.m.
TAX INCREMENT FINANCING.
1.0 APPROVE MINUTES OF APRIL 25, 2000.
MOTION by Hanus, seconded by Ahrens, to approve the minutes of April 25,
2000. The vote was unanimously in favor. Motion carried. 5-0.
1.1
DISCUSSION: MAXWELL PROPERTY, VACANT LAND NEXT TO SUPER
AMERICA.
Bruce Chamberlain stated the Maxwell property is the property adjacent to Super America.
He stated there were a couple of reasons why the acquisition was not being pursued. Mr.
Maxwell and Mr. Chamberlain have had conversations recently that have been documented in
a recent e-mail. Mr. Maxwell is willing to negotiate the price of the property, but he is
quite firm on between the $350,000-$400,000 range. The City previously offered $250,000.
Mound Visions Coordinator stated Mr. Maxwell would like a closing date and a resolution
regarding the cleanup on the site with a possible no association letter attached. The bottom
line is that Mr. Maxwell is looking for a higher number the City will pay for this property.
Mound Visions Coordinator stated the City was willing to offer $500,000, but that got
reduced because of the geotechnical and environmental issues on the property.
HRA Board Member Ahrens asked if Mr. Maxwell was asking for additional items. Mound
Visions Coordinator stated he is asking for cash at the closing and a few other terms in the
agreement that are not substantial.
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I-IRA Board Member Brown asked if $300,000 would be an appropriate number to offer Mr.
Maxwell for, the property.
Mound Visions Coordinator stated Mr. Maxwell sounded firm that he wanted to start in the
range of $350,000.
Mound Visions Coordinator stated this property will need to be discussed again in the future
and, for the overall development of the downtown property site, this piece of property is
important and the City will need to face having to purchase it again at some point if this
acquisition does not work out.
Mound Visions Coordinator stated the park-and-ride facility for the new redevelopment of
downtown would be accessed from this site, so this piece of property does pay an important
part in the development process.
HRA Board Member Hanus asked if anyone else wanted to purchase this property for any
purpose, they too would be faced with the same cost regarding cleanup and soil problems.
With that thought in mind, HRA Board Member Hanus is concerned the numbers being
presented are not sensible.
Mound Visions Coordinator stated there are costs associated with upgraded structural and
environmental issues to be dealt with by the property owner.
Mound Visions Coordinator mentioned Mr. Maxwell stated this problem, in his eyes, is no
different than what Super America faced next door when it was built. HRA Board Member
Hanus stated he would assume there were less problems up the hill than what is being dealt
with here.
Chairperson Meisel was concerned with the possible soil corrections that may be needed, but
with information recently received in tonight's packets, the conditions do not seem as
traumatic.
HRA Board Member Ahrens asked if there is an appraisal on this property. Mound Visions
Coordinator stated there is a year-old appraisal on the property at $477,000 assuming normal
soil conditions.
HRA Board Member Brown stated he discussed this situation with an educated friend in this
area regarding property and the problems within the property and he thought it could cost up
to $500,000 with the clean-up.
The City Attorney explained that the City of Mound was concerned about the property
because it needed the environmental clearances before anything could be done further on the
property. The City Attorney further stated the real problem with the site was not so much
the contamination, but unstable soils. The City Engineer agreed.
Mound Visions Coordinator suggested the HRA hire a structural engineer to give them a
clear picture of what s/he might see with the studies that have been done to date and give a
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opinion of what the tangible liabilities actually are with this acquisition. He was not able to
state what this type of service would cost the HRA.
The City Attorney further added the amount of corrective soils work with would vary
depending on what is built on the site.
HRA Board Member Hanus stated it is possible that this site could house nothing more than
the farmers market or a parking lot. He asked the City Attorney if this would change the
factors. The City Attorney stated this would entail less corrective work but some would still
need to the done.
Chairperson Meisel asked if it would be possible reimbursement through the Super Fund.
James Prosser, Ehlers & Associates, Inc. stated the City needs to find out what the purpose
of the acquisition really is for the HRA. He indicated that the City could keep the control of
this property even if it does not buy it, because if other possible buyers came in and wanted
to develop it, the City still has to approved the development.
Chairperson Meisel stated she does not appreciate having to start at $350,000 for this
property knowing all the corrections involved. HRA Board Member Hanus agreed.
HRA Board Member Ahrens asked if condemnation was used to obtain the property are the
soil conditions and contamination considered in determining the price. The City Attorney
stated this probably would be taken into account if there is back-up to prove it.
HRA Board Member Weycker felt this piece of property is needed for the downtown
redevelopment and does not want to see the City lose it.
The City Attorney suggested coming back at another meeting with quotes to provide that
information and then have the HRA make the decision whether to proceed with more soil
analysis, contamination investigation or structural and engineering work.
HRA Board Member Hanus mentioned the HRA has already paid $17,000 investigating this
property. He does not want to see the HRA lose this property because of the TIF factor.
Mound Visions Coordinator stated a challenge to keep in mind is that in order to gain full
access based on current roadway plans; the City needs this specific piece of property.
MOTION by Brown, seconded by Weycker, to direct staff to obtain structural
and cleanup quotes from an engineering firm, as well as a concept plan for this
property from the appropriate individuals. The vote was unanimously in favor.
Motion carried. 5-0.
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1.2 POST OFFICE RELOCATION UPDATE.
James Prosser, Ehlers & Associates, stated he been working with the real estate broker on
the post office and is continuing follow the progress of this project through the acquisition
stage. At this point, the Phase II stage cannot be paid for by the post office until they have
true control of the site. The Phase II is necessary at this point and would be in the range of
$4,000-$6,000.
The City Attorney asked if this is reimbursable. Mr. Prosser stated he would expect this to
be reimbursable, but is not sure and could not guarantee it, but he would try to get that part
into the agreement. Mr. Prosser did say it would be TIF reimbursable.
MOTION by Weycker, seconded by Ahrens, to complete Phase H of the post
office relocation project. The vote was unanimously in favor. Motion carried.
5-0.
Mr. Prosser further stated an offer has been made to the owner of the United Properties
parcel and we are waiting for a counter. There is still title work and surveying to be done,
and once that information is prepared, there will be a determination of whether to file
eminent domain. Filing eminent domain does not mean it will truly happen.
1.3 BEARD GROUP UPDATE.
Mr. Prosser stated the Beard Group Preliminary Development Agreement expires on May
15, 2000, and the Bear Group would like to have it extended. Mr. Prosser explained the
purpose for the extension is to allow time for the developer to gather information sufficiently
to determine whether it is financially suitable for them to enter into the Final Development
Agreement. Mr. Prosser stated this is clearly a most complicated redevelopment project
because of issues regarding land ownership, change of roadway and other public
improvements. He further explained most of these issues are nearing resolution. Mr.
Prosser stated there would be an additional 55 days to work out more specific information
which would allow a firmer estimate of the cost of the project.
Mayor Meisel stepped down as Chairperson and HRA Board Member Hanus became
Chairperson.
Bill Beard and Paul Gambst of Mainstreet, Inc. Mr. Beard stated in simple terms, there
should be two things that come out of the project after the Preliminary Development
Agreement. The first is a concept plan and the second is a development budget. He stated
this has been the most complicated project they have worked on. To date, the concept plan
presented back in November could not be built today because of high-pressure sewer lines
under parts of the property, along with storm water ponding issues. If there are major
changes that need to be made, they may need to do a new plan, but if not they hope to keep
moving forward.
Acting Chairperson Hanus asked when would the City receive final survey documents and
storm water calculations because this is when the 55 day extension would start. The City
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Engineer stated the survey documents are still waiting for title information regarding
easements for lift stations and watermalns. The Title Company has had this information
since November, but it is really complicated because of the railroad property. He was not
sure when this would be received. The City Engineer found out today he was supposed to
be working on the storm water calculations. A timeframe for this concern may be two
weeks, but he does need to get together with the Minnehaha Creek Watershed District
regarding the regional ponding needed in connection with the relocation of County Road 15.
Mr. Beard stated they are going to do the same thing here to take whatever information they
have received to make assumptions so when the final documentation comes in, this can be
adjusted quickly. They want this project to move forward as quickly as possible.
MOTION by Brown, seconded by Ahrens, to approve the Extension Agreement
prepared by Mainstreet, Inc. The vote was unanimously in favor. Motion
carried. 4-0, Chairperson Meisel was not in attendance and did not vote.
1.4
1.5
BUSINESS SUBSIDIES CRITERIA - PUBLIC HEARING
MOTION by Meisel, seconded by Hanus, to set the Business Subsidies Criteria
public hearing for May 23, 2000. The vote was unanimously in favor. Motion
carried. 5-0.
BUSINESS SUBSIDY GRANTED TO RAY MAR PROPERTIES - PUBLIC
HEARING.
MOTION by Meisel, seconded by Ahrens, to set the public hearing for May 23,
2000, to grant to Ray Mar Properties a Business Subsidy from the HRA. The
vote was unanimously in favor. Motion carried. 5-0.
ADJOURNMENT.
MOTION by Brown, seconded by Weycker, to adjourn the meeting at 7:59 p.m.
The vote was unanimously in favor. Motion carried. 5-0.
Kandis Hanson, City Manager
Attest: City Clerk