2020-08-12 CC Meeting MinutesMOUND CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
August 12, 2020
The City Council of the City of Mound, Hennepin County, Minnesota, met in a rescheduled
regular session (due to Primary Election) on Wednesday, August 12, 2020 at 7:00 p.m. in the
Westonka Schools Performing Arts Center in Minnetrista.
Members present: Mayor Ray Salazar; Council members Phil Velsor, Jeff Bergquist, Paula
Larson, and Sherrie Pugh
Members absent: None
Others present: City Manager Eric Hoversten, Community Development Director Sarah Smith,
Consulting Planner Rita Trapp, Administrative Assistant Jen Holmquist, Fire Chief Greg
Pederson, Brad Schafer, Ed Ring, Nichole Spiess, Don and Betsy Kohes, Pat Berg,
Frank Docherty, Nena Pounder, Jason Arseneau, Douglas Soholt, Roni Soholt, Dianne
Lachenmayer, Robert Stevens, Ann Eberhart, Jameson Smieja, Gretchen and Gene
Abegglen, Dee Nelson, Christopher and Pamela Getz, Kate Anthony, Sindi Dorsett,
Janessa Quinn, Leah Swanson, Jennifer and David Thompson, Kathleen Hunt, Jane
Anderson, Joanie and Steve Zielinski, Rob Ar, Johann Chemin, Gary Steven, Jeremy
Bloms, Doug Dahm, Michelle Henrick, Jaosn and Katie Holt, Elizabeth Hustad, Tim
Powers, Dan Saatzer, Tori and Tate Anderson, Trevor Martinez, Schafer Richardson;
Helen and Larry Melsness, Jim Murphy, Lili Herthone, Merrick Morlan, Kevin Johanson,
Ashlee Corning, Barton Halling, Kelli Gillespie -Coen; Sandi and Carey Manson, Nancy
Starr, Pat Buffington, Chris Carlson, Dan Hendrix.
Consent agenda: All items listed under the Consent Agenda are considered to be routine in
nature by the Council. There will be no separate discussion on these items unless a
Councilmember or citizen so requests, in which event it will be removed from the Consent
Agenda and considered in normal sequence.
1. Open meeting
Mayor Salazar called the meeting to order at 7:01 p.m.
2. Pledae of Allegiance
3. Approve agenda
Hoversten noted additional public comments for Item 7 have been provided.
MOTION by Bergquist, seconded by Velsor, to approve the agenda as amended. All voted in
favor. Motion carried.
4. Consent agenda
MOTION by Bergquist, seconded by Larson, to approve the consent agenda. Upon roll call
vote, all voted in favor. Motion carried.
A. Approve payment of claims in the amount of $335,370.37.
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B. Approve minutes: 07-28-20 regular meeting.
C. RESOLUTION NO. 20-70: RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING ACCEPTANCE OF THE
2020 CORONAVIRUS RELIEF FUND ASSISTANCE
D. Approve Pay Request No. 2 in the amount of $42,108.51 to Widmer Construction for the
2019 Fernside Forcemain Improvement & Bay Ridge Sewer Service City Project PW 19-
03 and 19-09
E. Approve Pay Request No. 1 in the amount of $107,869.03 to Widmer Construction for
the 2020 Lift Station Improvement Project City Project No. PW -20-05
5. Comments and suggestions from citizens present on anv item not on the agenda.
None were offered.
6. Mound Fire Chief Greg Pederson requesting action on a resolution to formally accept a
federal Assistance to Firefighters Grant (AFG) in the amount of $151,758.10
Pederson outlined the grant awarded to the Mound Fire Department.
MOTION by Velsor, seconded by Bergquist, to adopt the following resolution. All voted in favor.
Motion carried.
RESOLUTION NO. 20-71: A RESOLUTION TO FORMALLY ACCEPT A FEDERAL
ASSISTANCE TO FIREFIGHTERS GRANT (AFG) IN THE AMOUNT OF $151,758.10
7. Planning Commission Recommendation
Planning Case No. 20-07
Commerce Place Redevelopment Project —102 Unit Apartment Project
2200-2238 Commerce Boulevard
Applicant: Schafer Richardson
Public Hearings and Review/Consideration of the Following Applications:
• Zoning text amendment to allow medium and high density in the Destination
Planned Unit Development District
• Rezoning of properties from B-1 and R-3 to Destination Planned Unit Development
District
• Vacation of Fern Lane right of way and drainage and utility easements in
Commerce Place
• Major subdivision -preliminary plat and site development plans of Commerce
Place 2nd Addition
• Conditional Use Permit (CUP) for Planned Unit Development
Trapp presented a Power Point outlining the proposed project, including demo of the
current mall, building of a 3 -story apartment building with Wells Fargo remaining as is.
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Trapp noted the anticipated unit and community amenities and showed the parcels that are
being combined.
Trapp said the requests are for a zoning text amendment, rezoning from B-1 and R-3 to
Planned Unit Development District, Vacation of Fern Lane right of way and drainage and
utility easements, Major Subdivision -preliminary plat, Conditional Use Permit (CUP) for a
Planned Unit Development.
Trapp noted that the 2040 Comprehensive Plan was adopted last year and identifies this
area as mixed use which includes commercial, multi -family residential and townhomes, with
a density intended to be 12-30 units per acre, noting this project is 25 units per acre.
Trapp said the zoning text amendment would modify Section 129-140 to the Destination
Planned Unit Development District purpose to acknowledge appropriateness of medium
and high density residential adding multifamily as a permitted use. This was the intent of
the Comp Plan and this amendment addresses the inconsistency between the Zoning Code
and the Comprehensive Plan.
Trapp said the site is currently zoned B-1 Central Business and R-3 Multiple Family
Residential. The rezoning to Destination Planned Unit Development District (DEST-PUD)
would fit the designation in the Comprehensive Plan. Trapp said a portion of Fern Lane is
proposed to be vacated, noting the applicant owns both sides of that portion of Fern Lane.
Trapp said the reason for requesting vacation of drainage and utility easements is to
facilitate the proposed redevelopment since those easements serve the current mall and
are not needed.
Trapp said the preliminary plat is 3.35 acres with Lot 1 including the apartment and parking
in rear and Lot 2 including the surface parking to the west and around Wells Fargo shared
parking. Trap noted there is also 0.04 acres of ROW dedication.
Trapp said the Conditional Use Permit (CUP) establishes the PUD and will provide an
opportunity for the developer and the city to establish appropriate dimensions and design
standards for a project. Trapp noted the review relied on technical and/or third -party
experts to evaluate parking, traffic and stormwater to ensure what is being proposed meets
current trends.
Trapp said proposed building height is 42 feet and 4 inches which is less than the maximum
height limit, noting Shoreline Drive is a wide ROW of about 100 feet. Trapp said the
impervious surface cover is proposed to be 73% which is less than existing conditions on the
site. Trapp noted utilities are established and will change but there were no issues identified
from staff.
Trapp described the unit sizes and the number of each unit size, noting the density matches
what is appropriate for this area.
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Trapp noted three current access points are being eliminated, which should improve
circulation within the project. Trapp noted traffic and parking was evaluated by a third party
and gave a summary of how the traffic study was completed, the variables used and the
findings. Trapp said the project will have 272 parking spaces, including 84 covered,
underground spaces. Trapp said the applicant believes the proposed parking spaces are
sufficient, noting bicycle parking will also be available
Trapp outlined the building materials to be used, landscape screening and the proof of
parking/reserve area. Trapp noted there will be trees on the site except where underground
utilities don't allow it.
Trapp reviewed the Planning Commission recommendations from previous meetings and
outlined the procedures for moving forward, including holding a Public Hearing, considering
the policy -related requests and project -specific requests. Trapp says it would make sense to
take them separately.
Velsor asked about how the resolutions are grouped. Trapp recommended they be
considered as presented because they are linked.
Salazar asks if there were any more questions for Trapp and hearing none he invited the
developer to share his presentation.
Brad Schaffer, CEO and co-founder of Schaffer Richardson (SR), acknowledged there are a
lot of rumors he would like to address. Schaffer described the existing conditions at the site,
saying it is 26% occupied, not including Wells Fargo, which SR does not own, noting SR first
approached the city about redevelopment in 2011. Schaffer says they have built similar
apartment projects in surrounding cities and this is the smallest one.
Schaffer outlined the $20M investment in the city, Park Dedication funds of $125 - $175K,
projected property taxes of $300 - $340K, noting this project will diversify the housing stock
in the city and add a luxury option. Schaffer noted the city needs more residents to
encourage retail, and that this project would add a combined total household income of
$6.5M, or approximately $65K per unit. Schaffer said 2/3 of the new building will bring in
new families from outside of Mound.
Schaffer said he feels the current design is appropriate for Mound and outlined the reason
traffic will go down compared to a full commercial center. Schaffer said the parking is
sufficient and he does not expect to rent all garage stalls because they don't want to pay
the extra when a free option is available.
Schaffer discussed the change in retail, noting the market is not the same as it used to be
because we shop differently, which has left too much retail and retail space. Schaffer said
Mound does not have enough households to support new retail comparing it to other
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communities where they own that are 93% occupied and also noting the rents at Commerce
Place are far lower than those other communities and it still has a far higher vacancy rate.
Schaffer said SR offered a renovation proposal to the medical clinic but they already signed
their new lease. Schaffer noted there is no visibility for retailers in the current location and
the surplus of adjacent retail space makes it hard to rent.
Schaffer said this is not an affordable project, it is luxury, noting the building will cost $20M
when an affordable status would drop the value to $8 million which is why government
subsidies are necessary to fund the affordable project. Schaffer acknowledged community
members believe this will be switched after but he said the sole intent is to provide luxury
housing option that does not currently exist.
Schaffer then asked how big is too big, noting this proposal is less than code allows because
he didn't believe a larger building was wanted even though it would be allowed.
Schaffer asked if there were any questions for him. Salazar asked how many retail shopping
centers SR owns. Schaffer said they have 7 properties with 1400 units, and 10-12 apartment
buildings. Salazar asked Schaffer to repeat the unit square feet and rents and said the prices
sound like luxury, but the amenities and parking don't follow suit.
Salazar asked for other questions from the Council, and upon receiving none, opened the
public hearing.
Jane Anderson, 5060 Edgewater Drive, said she remembers a proposal for luxury
townhomes with retail below and does not think the target renter math makes sense nor
will those people want these apartments. Anderson said the amenities are not luxury and
she doesn't believe the traffic study. Anderson called for another study because she
believes the residents will take alternate routes on roads that aren't designed or built to
support that traffic. Anderson said she and other residents received 327 signatures from
people who are against this project. Anderson said people want a gym, a high-end
restaurant and a coffee shop. Anderson said she hopes the Council will pause and form a
committee with resident input to decide what other options there are.
Yohan Chemin, 6039 Beachwood Road, said he is opposed to the redevelopment and he
thinks the design is ugly. Chemin said he thinks this will brand us as the eye -sore of the lake
and noted because the grills are in the parking lot, he doesn't believe residents will want
that. Chemin said just because SR has built similar projects, doesn't mean we have to
accept it here. Chemin said the rents are too high and he doesn't think young families will
move here with high rents. Chemin said he doesn't believe our city is about taxes and park
space, it is about what we want for the city. Chemin is not concerned with the applicant's
losing money and he doesn't understand how 272 parking spaces will create less traffic.
Chemin asked if we want our city to be a big parking lot adding 102 families will mean more
kids and more schools. Chemin said have to pay for the schools with our taxes and he
thinks only SR wins with this proposal.
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Dave Thompson, 6601 Bartlett Blvd, said he moved here for the small community from a
city that was small but built similar projects. Thompson said the result were higher taxes,
higher crime and too many schools.
Chris Carlson, 5950 West Branch Road, said he walked the neighborhood and everyone
moved here for the quiet small town, noting this is not a positive change. Carlson said he
spoke to Bob Stevens, Ridgeview CEO, who said the clinic didn't want to leave Mound but
the negotiations fell apart. Carlson said he doesn't believe the owner tried to maintain the
mall, noting the mall Ridgeview moved to is beautiful. Carlson said he thought the applicant
drove out their anchor tenant and he can't understand why SR would not keep it up, asking
how can someone who allowed the property to fall into such disrepair now try to drive the
character of Mound.
Merrick Morlan, 4842 Dale Road, and owner of a gym at Stone Gate Plaza said he watched
that building deteriorate and that he did talk to Schaffer Richardson before opening his
gym, but the cost was too high. Morlan said Mound has way too much retail and that it's
likely too late now, but there needs to be something else at the project site. Morlan said
other owners, like the building he rents, are spending money to attract tenants and he is
hoping to open more retail space but he needs more customers in town. Morlan said this
owner isn't incentivized to build retail space and he recognizes that it is their building.
Morlan said it's not worth the money to them to continue as a commercial space and that
he understands that retail probably isn't viable there. Morlan said the residents should
have some say in what residential will look like on that site.
Robert Stevens, 5471 Lost Lake Lane, said he is the retired CEO of Ridgeview Medical Center
and that by Ridgeview moving out of Mound, it lost ambulance service area and incurred
higher costs. Stevens said he's against this project because 100 pounds of potatoes don't fit
in a 10 -pound sack and he wonders why this property doesn't have better amenities.
Stevens said other properties have retail that is working and that he thinks the applicant is
giving Mound a second rate proposal that could be better, noting they have proven they
can do better. Stevens said SR can make a better design and we should expect better.
Kevin Johanson, Basswood Lane, said he knows this is private property but wonders where
we want Mound for the next 40 years. Johanson asked someone to explain how 102 units
divided by 3.35 acres becomes 25 units per acre.
Robert Ar, 6045Chestnut, said he moved here for the lower density. He thinks this project
does not fit the community and doesn't believe this matches the plan for creating a
destination for anyone other than someone who lives there, noting the city has a cohesive
city core. Ar noted outlying communities would represent additional demand if retail were
provided so don't give up this key property as residential only is a lost opportunity for what
downtown Mound can be.
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Michelle Herrick, 2630 Westedge Blvd., said she has collected signatures, gone door to door
and had a table at the farmers' market. Herrick asked for a show of hands of who is in favor
of rezoning Commerce Place noting there were no hands. Herrick then asked how many are
not in favor of rezoning and noted there were several hands.
Sindi Dorsett, 6232 Red Oak Road, said she records the meetings for LMCC and she has seen
every proposal in Mound for 20 years and she thinks the council struggles to do what is best
for Mound. Dorsett said she appreciates the council's work and recognizes it's difficult, but
asked that they don't get persuaded by developers and, instead, listen to the residents.
Dorsett said down town should provide amenities and services for public use and she
doesn't think this is the right project, in addition to the senior development, that will make
the intersection more congested and dangerous for people trying to walk to the retail
spaces. Dorsett asked the council to respect the residents of Mound.
Chris Carlson, 5950 West Branch Road, said he would like to take an exception to the idea
that this is private property and the residents can't decide what they do with it when the
developer is asking for the property to be rezoned. Carlson said we shouldn't do it just
because the owners want it.
Nina Pounder, 2126 Fern Lane, said everything is changing and developers are re -thinking
their lay outs because people want home offices, noting she thinks the large number of 1
bedrooms will be an issue in attracting the target demographic.
Lilian Herthone, 5441 Spruce Road, said she rents in Mound and moved here from
Minnetonka, noting she feels this project is inconsistent with the younger age group
because they are not looking for this type of housing.
Joanie Zielinski, 5000 Edgewater Drive, said she moved here because it was a lovely lake
community with beautiful green space and shops coming to town. Zielinski said she went to
Excelsior recently and it was booming with full restaurants, people walking down the street
and enjoying the green space and asked if Wayzata and Excelsior can figure it out, why can't
we? Zielinski asked is this what fits for the bigger picture in Mound. Zielinski said she wants
green space developed in a way that encourages people to want to visit.
Nicole Spiess, 4379 Wilshire Blvd, said she doesn't buy luxury with three grills and not on
the lake, noting she thinks Mound is better than Edina. Spiess said she believes a 1 -
bedroom doesn't work for a family with one person working from home and building
residential is a fire threat. Spiess said this needs to be slowed down noting she's running for
council.
Jason Arseneau, 2126 Fern Lane, said he lives right behind the proposed site and that this
would impact him directly. Arseneau said open windows won't be likely due to increased
noise, noting he worries about extra traffic and over flow paring on his street. Arseneau said
they moved from a 700 sq. ft. apartment, noting they didn't have a car because they could
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walk everywhere. Arseneau said they moved here for small town feel and they are hoping
to start a family and send their child to a good school. Arseneau said he doesn't want the
applicant to tell us what we need, he wants the residents to tell us what we need.
Kellie Gillespie -Coen, 5360 Baywood Shores Drive, asked the council to separate fact and
emotion, noting she is a resident, property owner and land lord who has met with many
people. Gillespie -Coen acknowledged we all want more retail, but in order to support that
we need more people and she supports this project. Gillespie -Coen said Wells Fargo doesn't
want to be in the conversation but noted it is prime real estate for boutique retail. Gillespie -
Coen said we need to get the ball rolling and that she would not open a business in this site.
Gillespie -Coen said she loves the town but steps need to be taken and noted business
owners aren't going to come speak to the Council if it offends customers, but noted she
can't grow her business or start a new business without more people. Gillespie -Coen said
the business community wants this project and will benefit from it.
Jamison Smieja, 1700 Baywood Shores, said he agrees that the proposed building is fine but
he thinks we're putting it in the wrong spot because residents' expectations are higher than
what's being proposed. Smieja said he recognizes the tax revenue is attractive but we're
doing fine and we don't need this. Smieja said no commercial will be a bad legacy that
people will talk about forever.
Robert Stevens, 5471 Lost Lake Lane, said he wishes to address Schafer's assertion that this
will never be affordable housing and he read the description from NOVA Apartments.
Stevens said this is Schaffer Richardson's fourth affordable housing project with 99 units
including studio, 1 and 2 bedroom units and it includes commercial space on the ground
floor. Stevens said the amenities are very similar to the one they are proposing and that it is
a low income building.
Sandy Manson, 5104 Edgewater Drive, said she has deep roots in Mound and that this
project looks like a horrible idea for this property. Manson said retail is the best way to go
and the building could be rented today if the property is maintained. Manson said she
believes the drawings show more green space than she thinks is possible with all the
parking.
Dave Thompson, 6601 Bartlett Blvd, said he agrees that building residential would mean
more people and that would help the businesses that are already here but he thinks the
location is wrong. Thompson said taxes in his previous home went up 45% after high density
came in and that's what happens when you have to add more police, fire and utilities.
Thompson said we need to do things differently and high density is not the answer because
too many problems come with high density. Thompson noted once it's built you can't go
back.
Ashley Corning, 2190 Langdon Lane, said she asks the applicant what was offered recently
for retail.
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Schafer says the potential tenant was youth ice hockey club looking for dry -land training
space but that the club had a limited budget and limited time line.
Corning asked if month to month is offered only and Schafer said no. Corning said she
wonders if there is a possibility that Starbucks could be in the space, noting she works with
professionals and the amenities that the applicant describes is not what young professionals
want. Corning said she believes the traffic is an issue.
Janessa Quinn, 5982 Bartlett Blvd., said she challenges her neighbors when they disqualify
affordable housing renters and asks why.
Salazar closed the public hearing by saying he has some comments. Salazar thanked the
citizens for the communication and said the Council is listening. Salazar also thanked the
planning commission and city staff. Salazar said he admits when he saw the proposal he
thought it would work because the shopping center was in dire straits and the apartments
would fill a gap that Mound needs. Salazar said he doesn't believe this project is luxury and
he researched closely after all of the public comments. Salazar said he personally is used to
a lot of traffic and people but he also likes the small town, quiet, safety and living on the
lake. Salazar said we could use more business. Salazar said the City built a new public safety
building looking to the future to store all the equipment, allowed for training rooms,
emergency medical, and staff, noting it was done right. Salazar said the City built new for
the future, noting it will be paid off next year.
Salazar said this project is in the heart of our downtown and it's the last of the 4 corners at
that intersection. Salazar said that area was buzzing with commerce and we can bring
commerce back. Salazar said we have heard the residents, noting Council loves the town
want to do what's right. Salazar said we deserve better than this proposal and he thinks we
should go back to the drawing board. Salazar said he proposes establishing an economic
development committee, consisting of 2 council members and 3 professional residents who
will work to find good businesses and clean up Mound. Salazar said we don't want vacant
buildings, noting it will take time but we can make Mound great again.
MOTION by Bergquist, seconded by Larson, to approve the resolutions in 761, 7B2 and 7B3 to
deny the requests. All voted in favor. Motions carried.
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B. Resolutions to Deny Land Use Vacation and Subdivision Applications
B1. RESOLUTION NO. 20-72: RESOLUTION TO DENY REQUEST TO REZONE PROPERTIES
IN COMMERCE PLACE 2ND ADDITION AND REQUEST FOR A ZONING TEXT
AMENDMENT TO CITY CODE CHAPTER 129 AS IT RELATES TO USES ALLOWED IN
THE DESTINATION PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT
B2. RESOLUTION NO 20-73: RESOLUTION TO DENY VACATIONS OF FERN LANE RIGHT
OF WAY AND DRAINAGE AND UTILITY EASEMENTS IN COMMERCE PLACE AND
DENYING THE MAJOR SUBDIVISION -PRELIMINARY PLAT OF COMMERCE PLACE 2ND
ADDITION
B3. RESOLUTION NO. 20-74: RESULTION TO DENY CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A
PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR COMMERCE PLACE 2ND ADDITION
8. Information/Miscellaneous
A. Comments/reports from Council members/City Manager: Hoversten notes that we will
continue to meet in person at the PAC through November 10. Velsor asked if the city
has heart safe signs to display. Hoversten says he will find out and display them.
9. Adjourn
MOTION by Bergquist, seconded by Pugh, to adjourn at 8:51 p.m. All voted in favor. Motion
carried.
Attest: Catherine Pausche, Clerk
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Mayor Raymond J. Salazar